Eventcards in 2on2

[liit2]

I have a few questions about using Event Cards in 2vs2 games:

• Dreadful Spells & The Eagles are coming - The FAQ says any player can use theese cards - but can a payer who doesn't own the army use it, e.g. Sauron player using Dreadful Spells when the army containing the Nazgul, is a Isengard army ?
  
• Return to Valinor - kinda like the question above - if only the Sauron player controls an Elven stronghold, can the Isengard player then use the card ?
  
• The Grey Company & Dead Men of Dunharrow & House of the Stewards - the FAQ says any player can use theese card - but I'm asuming you are still not allowed to use the part of the card, allowing you to muster, if it's not your nation ?
  
• Wisdom of Elrond - I read somewhere, that in a 1on1, you can use this card to advance a shadow nation - does this mean you can use this to advance one of your partners nations ?
  
• Olog-Hai & Half-Orcs and Goblin-Men - Are you allowed to place the unit in an army you don't own ? I'm guessing yes ?
  
• The Fighting Uruk-Hai Is the Sauron player really not allowed to use this card, if Saruman is in play, and the Sauron player has an Isengard unit in the army he is using to besiege a FP stronghold ?
  
• Wormtoung What specificly is a Companions special ability ? E.g., if a hobbit enters Helm's Deep - does this count ?
  

That's it for now, and thanks in advance

[Krieghund]

liit2 said:

Dreadful Spells & The Eagles are coming - The FAQ says any player can use theese cards - but can a payer who doesn't own the army use it, e.g. Sauron player using Dreadful Spells when the army containing the Nazgul, is a Isengard army ?

I would say so.

liit2 said:

Return to Valinor - kinda like the question above - if only the Sauron player controls an Elven stronghold, can the Isengard player then use the card ?

I would say so.

liit2 said:

The Grey Company & Dead Men of Dunharrow & House of the Stewards - the FAQ says any player can use theese card - but I'm asuming you are still not allowed to use the part of the card, allowing you to muster, if it's not your nation ?

Apparently the rationale here is that the Character involved overrides the Nation involved. Since either player may use the card even though it clearly applies to the other player's Nation, I would say that the recruitment occurs no matter who plays the card.

liit2 said:

Wisdom of Elrond - I read somewhere, that in a 1on1, you can use this card to advance a shadow nation - does this mean you can use this to advance one of your partners nations ?

You can definitely advance your partner's Nation.

About advancing a Shadow Nation, I've never heard that before. The wording of the card would indicate that it's possible, though. This could have implications in bringing in Galadriel. What's the word on this, Veldrin?

liit2 said:

Olog-Hai & Half-Orcs and Goblin-Men - Are you allowed to place the unit in an army you don't own ? I'm guessing yes ?

You may. This could give you control of the Army, if you place an Elite in an Army consisting of only a Regular.

liit2 said:

The Fighting Uruk-Hai Is the Sauron player really not allowed to use this card, if Saruman is in play, and the Sauron player has an Isengard unit in the army he is using to besiege a FP stronghold ?

That seems weird, but that's what it says! Veldrin?

liit2 said:

Wormtoung What specificly is a Companions special ability ? E.g., if a hobbit enters Helm's Deep - does this count ?

Yes. A "Companion's special ability" refers to the ability of a Companion to activate a Nation by moving to a City or Stronghold of that Nation.



While these answers shouldn't be considered "official", I am relatively certain that they are correct. Veldrin will correct me if I'm wrong. Hope this helps!

[Veldrin]

You cannot advance the enemy's nations by the card "The Wisdom of Elrond."

As to "The Fighting Uruk-hai" I am somewhat uncertain but "Grond" is Sauron only and "The Fighting Uruk-hai" is suppsed to be the Isengard version of it I think that ony the Saruman player can play "The Fighting Uruk-hai."

[liit2]

admin said:

You cannot advance the enemy's nations by the card "The Wisdom of Elrond."

But you can still use it to advance your partner's nations ?


Thank you, both of you, for the help :-)

[renter]

Just a comment on 'Fighting Uruk-Hai', it came up in a game yesterday and I went through the text with a fine comb.

Requirements: Saruman in play+Isengard unit besieging a FP stronghold.
Effect: 3-round battle against that stronghold.

Of course, the assumption is that the Army is in the control of the Saruman/East player. But if you have, say, a Sauron army besieging Minas Tirith and the Saruman player musters a Wargrider there with 'Half-Orcs and Goblin-Men', you've pretty much filled the requirements of the card.

Now, the question becomes: Which player can use the card? Sauron? FAQ says no. Saruman? The army isn't in his control, so no.

Too bad, it makes for an excellent combo otherwise.

[mrweasely]

Can't you attack with your lone Half Dork? ;D