"attacking" event cards like "Dreadful spells"

[eXistenZ]

Some event cards like "Dreadful spells" for the Shadow (but there are analogous cards for the FP) allows you to attack. I have 2 questions about it:

1) Attacking by means of those cards is subjected to politics? I mean, may a nation use those cards if not "in war"? (I think yes because a nation can recruit by cards even if not in war...)

2) How is treated such an attack?

a) It is an additional attack, followed by a normal attack phase?
b) It takes the place of an attack, without the relevant rules (using combat cards, combat and leader rolls, and all restrictions that can be applied)?
c) It takes the place of an attack, with the relevant rules?

Please somebody answer me! I think this topic is not so clearified in the rules...

[Veldrin]

An attack from an Event card is still an Attack when it comes to politics, so a nation attacked by Dreadful Spells would be Activated and moved down one box on the political track.


To answer the second question I must know what card you are refering to,

Dreadfull spells is just roll a number of dice once and resolve the result.

A card such as Grond, Hamme rof the Underworld initiates a "normal" combat with combat cards and such.

[glow=green,2,300]Veldrin[/glow]

[eXistenZ]

Thanks for the answer, BTW I mean a different instance in my first question...

the scenario is: S&E are not at war, 5 nazguls belong to an army made interely by S&E and near a region occupied by FP. may I use the card "dreadful spells" to attack that region?

[Veldrin]

The Nazgûl and all Minions and Companions are always "at War".

[glow=green,2,300]Veldrin[/glow]

[cheup]

But he meant something different:

May the S&E-army attack in this case?

[Veldrin]

When you play Dreadful Spells it is only the Nazgûl that attacks not the units so it can be played.

[glow=green,2,300]Veldrin[/glow]

[darkman]

There's a big discussion regarding 'attack' cards and the political track over at BGG:

www.boardgamegeek.com/article/63489

An official ruling on this matter would be helpful, especially if this game ever enters the tournament scene.

[eXistenZ]

And how works the card "return to valinor"? may the shadow attack elvish strongholds even if no armies of its are adiacent to them?
And, in general, when not explicitly specificated, may an attack by an event card be driven without adiacent armies?

[Veldrin]

All event cards specify if an army must be adjacent or not.

Return to Valinor can be played if the Shadow controls an Elven Stronghold, you don't have to have an army adjacen tto any Elven Stronghold.

This card symbolizes the Elves leaving Middle Earth for the undying lands.

[glow=green,2,300]Veldrin[/glow]

[eXistenZ]

When rolls for "return to valinor" are successful, must the casualties been taken from elves? and, in general, if an Elves' Strongold is defended only from a race other than elves, must the casualties be removed as well? the answer should be "no" from a simulation PoV, but on the card it is not explicitly stated...

[Veldrin]

Return to Valinor can only damage Elven units in the Elven Strongholds.

It says so excplicitly on the card in the English version.

Which language version do you own?

[glow=green,2,300]Veldrin[/glow]

[eXistenZ]

I've got the Italian version (the language of the designers!!! ) , but I'm afraid that the "official" version is the english one.
On my version, the only mandatory condition is that you must control an elvish stronghold. then you roll 3 dice, and get a strike for each 4 or more. Could you please paste the text on the english version of the card?

[Veldrin]

Play if you control at least one Elven stronghold.

Attack each Elven Stronghold not under siege. Roll a number of dice equal to the number of Elven units in that Region (up to 5) and score hits on 6.

[glow=green,2,300]Veldrin[/glow]