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Post by mrweasely on Dec 9, 2006 3:35:07 GMT 1
;D This is not "proof" that the game is balanced!
What happens if I can beat every poster on that board as Shadow 75% of the time? I submit that I can win the base game as Shadow. Maybe not 90%, but a LOT more than 50%. I'm willing to back that up in online game play.
That or I find a *really* fantastic new Free strategy, in which case I'd be excited, but shocked.
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Post by Jyrki on Dec 10, 2006 0:59:02 GMT 1
This is not "proof" that the game is balanced!  Statistics versus 1 player. Statistics win ;D |
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Post by mrweasely on Dec 10, 2006 4:59:45 GMT 1
Depends what you're trying to measure. You're only measuring learning curve, not final, fully-explored balance. Also, statistically, you've got some morons in that mix, that could totally skew it. I played a few times with a guy that never moved his Mordor armies. The Free did pretty well against him.
I renew my challenge.
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Post by Lord Aragorn on Apr 5, 2007 9:12:52 GMT 1
I think this game is fairly balanced.
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Post by renter on Jul 12, 2007 9:52:25 GMT 1
;D This is not "proof" that the game is balanced! What happens if I can beat every poster on that board as Shadow 75% of the time? I submit that I can win the base game as Shadow. Maybe not 90%, but a LOT more than 50%. I'm willing to back that up in online game play. You've proved that you're a good player? Online play? You mean with the online game that doesn't check anything?  And is off-line atm, anyway. I wouldn't give it very much credit. A more interesting question would be how much you'd win with the FP (core, no bids, no NATs etc) I'm guessing way over 50%. I've played about 15-16 games, 4 with FP the rest with Shadow. I've won twice with FP and lost twice with Shadow. Both of my FP victories were military victories while the Fellowship was in Mordor. At that point even with some corruption you've got an advantage since 90% of the time the Shadow player is getting desperate, and all you need is one tactical error and a lucky turn following that to win. Though, I'll have to admit, the Shadow player hasn't used an offensive DEW strategy (out of Mordor) yet, and I'm loathe to introduce it to our group. |
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Post by mrweasely on Jul 12, 2007 16:27:08 GMT 1
Free wins come about by mistakes by Sauron and action die luck. I'm sure there are players on this board which will beat my Free like a drum.
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Post by genghissean on Jan 6, 2008 15:51:24 GMT 1
Out of 285 games in a tournament if France showed:
101 SP miltary victory (35.4%)
43 SP corruption victory (15.1%)
63 FP milatary victory (22.1%)
78 FP destroying the ring (27.4%)
Total: SP 50.5
FP 49.5
Conclusion: Shadow Player, as semi beginners has a SLIGHT advantage
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Post by thoronsul on Aug 15, 2009 7:08:23 GMT 1
In the few games I've played thus far, I have had whomever I'm playing against complain about the game being imbalanced, and I've played as both sides. I had one guy begin complaining not two turns into the game, and he did not remember all the rules even. Yet he began railing about the unfairness and imbalance of the game. I believe that while the Shadow is easier to pick up, once someone has played a few times, it is a relatively balanced game.
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Post by mexicoike on Feb 23, 2010 22:38:45 GMT 1
With two experienced players, the FP has the definite advantage. Half the dice results can result in moving the Fellowship. Even if 5 dice are in the pool, there's a 40% chance that the hunt will not be successful as long as you only move once that turn. Use all the other dice to build defenses if that's the case. If there are fewer dice in the pool, move more than once and there's still a very good chance the hunt won't be successful. Kill Gandalf to cancel the first damage and then bring him back in Fangorn as Gandalf the White with a Will of the West to get another die. Then you can just punch through, killing characters as you go and hiding using any die because Strider is the guide. Once Gollum's the guide, only an eye will reveal. The only way the SP can win if the FP plays right is if the FP gets terrible action rolls, the SP gets lucky hunt rolls, or the SP gets lucky tile draws. Otherwise, the Fellowship's golden. Granted, the SP is funner to play, but the FP is easier to win.
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Post by bilbobaggins764 on Nov 10, 2021 17:41:11 GMT 1
I saw stats including the expansions together that gave the SP a slight advantage.
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And is off-line atm, anyway. I wouldn't give it very much credit. A more interesting question would be how much you'd win with the FP (core, no bids, no NATs etc) 
