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Post by Gormonghast on Sept 23, 2004 12:24:26 GMT 1
I was wondering if it wouldn't be more authentic if certain strongholds could block movement even when the garrison has withdrawn into siege.
For example, if Minas Morghul is under siege should FP armies really be allowed to move through into Gorgoroth?
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Post by cheup on Sept 23, 2004 20:09:01 GMT 1
why not?
the sieging army is dealing with the besieged army, while the trespassing army is moving in its back. (is that correct english???)
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Post by stevehope on Sept 23, 2004 21:21:59 GMT 1
The point being that various strongholds in ME (Moria and Minas Morgul being the two foremost ones in my mind, though Morannon I guess is the same) were built in such a way that they pretty much sit astride the only path across otherwise untraversable mountains. Just because Frodo and Sam climbed the black stair doesn't mean several thousand men can!
But I think it's better if you ignore that "historical" issue and try to concentrate on keeping the rules clean. I doubt it comes up in very many games anyway (maybe at Moria it does).
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Post by Francesco on Sept 24, 2004 11:55:53 GMT 1
Just because Frodo and Sam climbed the black stair doesn't mean several thousand men can! Frodo and Sam climbed the Endless Stairs, a way that led to Shelob's Lair, an alternate way to the Morgul Pass, or Nameless Pass, that could be crossed (and was) by armies, as shown in th following passage, where Aragorn is riding to the Last Battle: "So the next day when the main host came up, they set a strong guard upon the Cross-roads to make some defence, if Mordor should send a force over the Morgul Pass, or should bring more men up from the South." BTW, the Morgul Pass is the reason why Minas Morgul is there, to guard it at the time it was called Minas Ithil. |
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Post by Skanvak on Sept 27, 2004 17:48:56 GMT 1
I find the idea very interesting in fact. Thought discussion and documentation should be done too.
The most obvious point I thing is Morannon. In the book and the film the stronghold totally block the only road. I thing that such a rule will reinforce the impression af Mordor being a fortress-country.
I have the same question about the orc(dwarven) stronghold of Moria and Gundabad. Could the mountain around be crossed? Most mountain in middle-earth can't.
I thing that it should be a really good house-rule for Morannon and Gundabad.
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