Post by tankard on Feb 9, 2011 19:49:53 GMT 1
Two questions regarding Smeagol:
1. "We shall get it" enters play if Smeagol is "eliminated" for any reason. Smeagol is "discarded" if he is separated from the fellowship or if the fellowship is declared in a free peoples city or stronghold. Does Smeagol being discarded for either of these reasons cause "We shall get it" to enter play?
2. I recently played a game in which the fellowship made enough moves to go all the way from Rivendell through Moria to Lorien without being revealed. The Balrog was in play and the FP declared the fellowship in Lorien. As a result of moving through the location of the Balrog, a hunt tile was drawn. This tile was Smeagol. We assumed that Smeagol entered play and then was immediately discarded because the fellowship was declared in Lorien. Question 1 above then entered play. We considered "discarded" to mean the same thing as "eliminated", so "We shall get it" did enter play. The upshot was that the fellowship took no corruption, but Smeagol was now out of play and "We shall get it" entered play.
A sidebar to this is that the FP argued that since the Smeagol tile was drawn when he was going through Moria, he should be allowed to change his destination and now bypass Lorien. He wanted to continue his remaining moves to a different destination than the originally declared destination of Lorien based on the hunt result in Moria and thus keep Smeagol in play as the guide of the fellowship. The rules made no provision for this, so it was not allowed in our game; even though it does seem logical that the FP could do this.
1. "We shall get it" enters play if Smeagol is "eliminated" for any reason. Smeagol is "discarded" if he is separated from the fellowship or if the fellowship is declared in a free peoples city or stronghold. Does Smeagol being discarded for either of these reasons cause "We shall get it" to enter play?
2. I recently played a game in which the fellowship made enough moves to go all the way from Rivendell through Moria to Lorien without being revealed. The Balrog was in play and the FP declared the fellowship in Lorien. As a result of moving through the location of the Balrog, a hunt tile was drawn. This tile was Smeagol. We assumed that Smeagol entered play and then was immediately discarded because the fellowship was declared in Lorien. Question 1 above then entered play. We considered "discarded" to mean the same thing as "eliminated", so "We shall get it" did enter play. The upshot was that the fellowship took no corruption, but Smeagol was now out of play and "We shall get it" entered play.
A sidebar to this is that the FP argued that since the Smeagol tile was drawn when he was going through Moria, he should be allowed to change his destination and now bypass Lorien. He wanted to continue his remaining moves to a different destination than the originally declared destination of Lorien based on the hunt result in Moria and thus keep Smeagol in play as the guide of the fellowship. The rules made no provision for this, so it was not allowed in our game; even though it does seem logical that the FP could do this.