Spirit of Mordor

[zeyd]

"Attack a Shadow Army composed of units of different Nations. Roll five dice and score hits on results of 5+."

What if there is a Shadow army with Orcs from Isengard and Dunlendings?

Are the Dunlendings considered as Isengard units or not?

[Meehael]

Dunlendings are considered an Isengard army, so in your case that army wouldn't be a legal target. It is mentioned (in brackets) on pg. 4 of the Twilight of the Third Age rulebook, under Additional Rules of Dunland Faction paragraph.

[zeyd]

Thanks for the answer.

[Lord Aragorn]

Dunlendings are considered an Isengard army, so in your case that army wouldn't be a legal target.

What about The Fighting Uruk-Hai?

Play if Saruman is in play.
Attack a Stronghold with a besieging
Army containing Isengard units.
The battle lasts for three Combat
rounds instead of one. During the first
round, the Free Peoples player cannot
use Combat Cards unless a Companion
is in the battle.

Dunlendings are Isengard units.

Dunlendings are special Shadow (Isengard) Army units and can only be mustered using the “Death to the Forgoil!” ability.

However, I don't think that fighting Uruk-hai could refer to Hillmen.

The Orcs yelled and jeered. 'Come down! Come down!' they cried. 'If you wish to speak to us, come down. Bring down your king! We are the fighting Uruk-hai. We will fetch him from his hole, if he does not come. Bring out your skulking king!'

The Two Towers by J.R.R Tolkien, Book 3, Chapter 7.

[Meehael]

Well, since Dunlendings are an Isengard army, if they are a part of an army (or the only units in an army) besieging an FPP stronghold, that army is a legal target for "The Fighting Uruk-Hai". This is only the name of the card, don't let it confuse you. It is only thematic . Any Isengard unit would do, whether the elite or regular, or the Dunlendings.

Regards

[Lord Aragorn]

Thanks for a help.

I agree it is legal, but I just do not accept it.

"It is only thematic."

ONLY!

[zeyd]

It is the the same thematic that make me have a doubt about the card Spirit of Mordor :-). I would have understood that Orcs and Hillmen, even both from Isengard, could create confusion or/and casualties in the same army.

[Meehael]

Nov 2, 2009 9:51:34 GMT 1 zeyd said:

create confusion or/and casualties in the same army.

You mean, like, friendly fire?


Anyways, in my last post above, "thematic"="compatibility with the expansion"

Regards

[Lord Aragorn]

I would like to get an official explanation on this one.

Veldrin? Krieghund? Seven Spirits?

[Veldrin]

OK, what is the exact question?

There are three Shadow nations:

The Sauron Nation
Army units: Orcs (Regulars) and Trolls (Elite)
Leaders: Nazgûl
Characters: Mouth of Sauron, The Balrog, and the Witch-King

The Isengard Nation
Army units: Uruk-Hai (Regulars), Warg Riders (Elite), and Hillmen (Expansion faction)
Leaders: N/A
Characters: Saruman

The Southron & Easterling Nation
Army units: Southron Bowmen (Regulars) and Mûmakil (Elites)
Ships: Corsair ships (Expansion faction)
Leaders: N/A
Characters: N/A


So, if Army units from different nations are in one Army that Army is a possible target for the "Spirit of Mordor" Event card.

[glow=green,2,300]Veldrin[/glow]

[Lord Aragorn]

My question was about Fighting Uruk-hai.

Can SP player use Fighting Uruk-hai to attack with army containing only Hillmen?
It doesn't make sense to me, but yes, they are Isengard army unit (special).

[Veldrin]

OK, the the answer is yes.

Hillmen are Isengard Army units so the card works. Just pretend there are a few Uruks telling the Hillmen what to do.

[glow=green,2,300]Veldrin[/glow]