Mighty Attack vs Foul Stench

[Goodgulf the Grey]

This came up in our tournament game and I just wanted to get a clear ruling on it.

I played Foul Stench with 7 leadership (more than FP 5 leadership) and the FP played Mighty Attack giving up Boromir's leadership. Does Mighty Attack remove a casualty? We played that it did not since the FP had no leader re-roll and Mighty Attack is basically generating an " auto hit" on a leader re-roll, but Ira raised the issue of which comes first -- giving up leadership for hit or losing leader re-roll.

As a follow up to this, and after reading the Fair Stench Thread, (http://veldrin.proboards22.com/index.cgi?board=Rules&action=display&thread=1187927536) I wasn't sure if I could count the Mouth of Sauron and Warg leadership in my total 7 or if Foul Stench is Nazgul leadership only...if it is Nazgul leadership only then we misplayed and I shouldn't have used the card as it would have been useless against my opponent since I had only 4 Nazgul leadership there.

[Krieghund]

Per the FAQ, Foul Stench only counts Nazgul Leadership.

On the other question, I'm not entirely sure, but I think Foul Stench would also cancel Mighty Attack, since the Leader re-roll is cancelled. I don't have the card in front of me, but I think the Mighty Attack hit is applied during the Leader re-roll phase.

[mrweasely]

"Forfeit one leadership to score one automatic hit" is all the master text says. Foul Stench doesn't cancel leadership, it cancels the leader re-roll.

IIRC the printed card has a more descriptive text than the master doc. Too lazy to go get it now...

[Krieghund]

Immediately before your Leader re-roll, score one automatic hit on a missed die. You must now forfeit the Leadership of one Companion in the battle.

This is definitely an instance of the actual card text being more informative than the Master text. The effect of this card is basically to score an automatic hit with one Leader re-roll die. Sounds to me like the automatic hit is cancelled if the Leader re-roll is cancelled. You can't do something before your Leader re-roll if you don't have a Leader re-roll.

[kwojtasz]

Just to clarify then...

Mighty Attack would be canceled by Foul Stench (if in effect due to enough leadership) and Heads of the Fallen since both stop the FP from having a leader re-roll. (no re-roll = no auto hit on a missed die)

Likewise... is Anduril's effect similarily cancelled by Foul Stench and Heads of the Fallen?

Both cards read, "Immediately before your Leader re-roll....."

[Krieghund]

I would say so.

[Veldrin]

I agree.

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