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Post by redsimon on Apr 20, 2006 18:20:40 GMT 1
1) There are two different action tokens, one with army/muster symbol, one with character symbol. The rules speak only of generic tokens. Are there any differences between both tokens?
2) There is a Gimli counter and a Legolas counter in the game. For what purpose? They come into the Game with an event card anyway.
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Veldrin
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Post by Veldrin on Apr 20, 2006 18:22:36 GMT 1
1) The tokens have the same effect.
2) No idea.
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Post by Jamiri on Apr 20, 2006 22:59:41 GMT 1
I thought the character action token lets you make partial character movements and partial rallies, while the muster/army token lets you make partial muster and partial army movements?
Interestingly, the summary sheets for both scenarios state that a partial muster action can be used to place one recruitment token in a friendly settlement. According to the rulebook this is not possible. In fact, muster actions can never be used to place recruitment tokens but only to flip them, right?
The Gimli and Legolas counters can be used to be placed on the corresponding Gimli & Legolas event card (instead of using the actual figures as described on the card).
Jamiri
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Post by Veldrin on Apr 21, 2006 7:15:39 GMT 1
From the Gondor and Rohan FP player aid sheet:
"Partial Muster. Flip one Recruitment token, or place one Recruitment token in one Recruitment Area of the appropriate Nation."
Recruitment Areas are not settlements.
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Post by Jamiri on Apr 21, 2006 13:00:43 GMT 1
Yes, you're right, but still, why can I only use the action tokens but not action dice to place reinforcements tokens in those areas? And why doesn't state the rulebook the same rules?
From the rulebook page 10:
"Each Action token can be used to either: • [...] • Flip one Recruitment token in one Settlement to recruit one Unit; or • [...]"
I think it's something that is simply put wrong on the player aid sheets.
Jamiri
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Veldrin
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Post by Veldrin on Apr 21, 2006 17:03:20 GMT 1
Where does it say that the action token allows the FP to put recruitments tokens in a Settlement?
The Gondor rules say that you can use a Muster die to place one recruitment token in the Rohan Recruitment Area and one recruitment token in the Gondor Recruitment Area.
From the Gondor play aid (under the Muster Die options):
"Free Peoples Player only. Add one Gondor Recruitment token in the “To the Outlands” Recruitment Area and one Rohan Recruitment token in the “To Rohan” Recruitment Area."
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Post by Jamiri on Apr 21, 2006 18:39:40 GMT 1
Where does it say that the action token allows the FP to put recruitments tokens in a Settlement? Actually nowhere. But as mentioned above on page 10 of the rulebook (in the generic rules for both scenarios) it says: "Each Action token can be used to either: • [...] • Flip one Recruitment token in one Settlement to recruit one Unit; or • [...]" So it says flip and not put, but it also says settlement and not recruitment area. It does NOT allow for placement of recruitment tokens, neither in settlements nor in recruitment areas. The Rohan AND the Gondor player aids (rules summary sheets), however, state something different: "Partial Muster: Flip one recruitment token, or place one recruitment token in one Recruitment Area." The latter alternative of the action would be useless for the FP in the Rohan scenario as there are no recruitment areas for the FP. So my question is: are these discrepancies intended by the game designers (i.e. are these special scenario rules that override the generic rules) or is it just an oversight on the rules summary sheets? Jamiri
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Post by dogma on Apr 21, 2006 18:40:29 GMT 1
in the german rule-book it is said. so you can NEVER PUT recruitment-tokens with the action token?? You can only FLIP them?
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Post by Veldrin on Apr 22, 2006 16:30:27 GMT 1
No matter what the rules/player aid state here is how it should work:
Gondor:
You can use a Muster die to place recruitment tokens (one in each) in the National Recruitment Areas (To the Outlands/To Rohan).
You can use an Action token to place one recruitment token in either of the National Recruitment Areas (To the Outlands/To Rohan).
Rohan:
There is no way to place recruitment tokens in any settlements except through the use of Events Cards or by bringing in Théoden and Éomer.
The fact that this:
"Partial Muster: Flip one recruitment token, or place one recruitment token in one Recruitment Area."
is written on the Rohan player aid is simply to not have to print two different Action dice/tokens summary pages.
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Post by dogma on Apr 22, 2006 17:45:32 GMT 1
perfect summary. thanx a lot.
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