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Post by Glabro on Apr 27, 2005 22:52:24 GMT 1
About the game....will have to be on hold until I´ve some more time, perhaps next week. I´d have to look into the VoIP programs, I guess....but of course, you can do that if you wish to accelerate things, Chulainn
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Post by chulainn on Apr 30, 2005 8:52:07 GMT 1
GlabroI will install skype this weekend, so i will be ready when you are Whats about thursday evening (european time) next week? Besides that, i was quiet a while, because we did an intensive testing ... Just to check how far the FP can go when playing just military we did the following ... we played shadow games like our standards, with 1 hunt dice to the box per round and the usual strategies, but the FP we played as if there is no fellowship. So we get Gandalf and Aragorn asap and seperate all other companions as well, and didnt waste a single die for moving the fellowship or doing any action regarding them. The results have been quite surprisingly even for us ... our inital thoughts have been, that this setup will heavenly slow down the shadow, also we didnt think the FP can stop him. The surprising reality showed that the FP is not at all able to slow down the shadow significantly with this strategy. Of course the FP can muster more units, but on the other side (despite we put a dice in the huntbox nevertheless) the shadow also saves a lot of dice (no special hunt tiles, no cards hunting the fellowship, no special moves of the nazgul for hunt etc.) So in the end the shadow needs maybe 2-3 rounds more to finish the military campaign, but without any risk of loosing the game due to the destruction of the ring. Next testing we will do the same, but with free choice for the FP to choose dice and cards for actions (not for battles). Lets see if the shadow still will have an edge on the battlefields than. Chulainn
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Post by Glabro on May 1, 2005 0:07:10 GMT 1
Hm. Well. The whole idea, I guess, is that you always threaten to move the FSP, even with only Gollum, if the opportunity shows itself or if you don´t see an opportunity for a military victory. If the Shadow does ignore the FSP completely regarding the Fellowship (discards hunt tile cards, does not move a nazgul to watch over them, plays no hurting cards) then surely there´s a chance for the Fellowship to start moving and threatening the Dark Powers that way. Meanwhile, your companions and bigger armies should mean that you could try to take the initiative yourself, going for the Shadow strongholds....
From what I heard, you played the FP in this "test" as passive and defensive, trying to "slow down" the Shadow victory. Well duh, of course it won´t work.
The only chance is to try and threaten multiple shadow strongholds at once with lightning-fast movement (using cards etc.) with those famous "super-stacks".
Perhaps you´re telling me that a truly experienced shadow player simply brushes away that chance, no matter how well the FP play their game. Perhaps so. I´m not totally convinced of that yet, however.
About the game, maybe Thursday would be good. If I don´t get company, then why not. Just reserve enough time - don´t expect the game to end in 2-3 hours. I´m not an especially fast player, and this playing style will add to the length.
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Post by Glabro on May 1, 2005 0:09:13 GMT 1
Hm. Well. The whole idea, I guess, is that you always threaten to move the FSP, even with only Gollum, if the opportunity shows itself or if you don´t see an opportunity for a military victory. If the Shadow does ignore the FSP completely regarding the Fellowship (discards hunt tile cards, does not move a nazgul to watch over them, plays no hurting cards) then surely there´s a chance for the Fellowship to start moving and threatening the Dark Powers that way. Meanwhile, your companions and bigger armies should mean that you could try to take the initiative yourself, going for the Shadow strongholds....
From what I heard, you played the FP in this "test" as passive and defensive, trying to "slow down" the Shadow victory. Well duh, of course it won´t work.
The only chance is to try and threaten multiple shadow strongholds at once with lightning-fast movement (using cards etc.) with those famous "super-stacks".
Perhaps you´re telling me that a truly experienced shadow player simply brushes away that chance, no matter how well the FP play their game. Perhaps so. I´m not totally convinced of that yet, however.
About the game, maybe Thursday would be good. If I don´t get company, then why not. Just reserve enough time - don´t expect the game to end in 2-3 hours. I´m not an especially fast player, and this playing style will add to the length.
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Post by chulainn on May 1, 2005 9:25:43 GMT 1
From what I heard, you played the FP in this "test" as passive and defensive, trying to "slow down" the Shadow victory. Well duh, of course it won´t work. Of course not. What i wanted to say, is that even than the FP player has absolute no chance to play active on the military fields Chulainn
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Post by Glabro on May 4, 2005 21:23:54 GMT 1
All right, I´ve installed Skype as well, and am ready to play whenever...
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Post by Glabro on May 5, 2005 11:15:03 GMT 1
....Except that I´ve lost my mike-headset thingy. Oh well.
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Post by chulainn on May 6, 2005 9:36:50 GMT 1
Hi Glabro, i got an unexpected visit of my son and his friend until sunday, so they most likely will block my pcs every evening we can try another start next week. thuesday or thursday evening would be fine to me, otherwise i have most of next weekend as well. maybe we change email adresses or icq numbers via pm, that would make communication a lot easier. chulainn
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Post by jackstere on May 7, 2005 4:22:57 GMT 1
I hope you gentlemen intend to keep us updated on the happenings in your games!
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Post by Glabro on May 7, 2005 22:40:53 GMT 1
Well, it´s not like only Chulainn is allowed to play. I could try playing against anyone willing...when I get a new mic, that is. As I said, I currently do not have one.
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Post by jackstere on May 8, 2005 3:58:06 GMT 1
Give me some time to familiarize myself with the game a bit more (through solataire play ) then I'll take that as well. Prefer to start with 2-player games. I'll contact you on these boards when I'm ready which might be awhile. I'm not taking you on as a critic of the play style you have outlined but rather as a chance to compete against someone new. Looking forward to the challenge... Jack
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John Boone
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Post by John Boone on May 8, 2005 6:40:49 GMT 1
Glabro, how are you guys going to play the cards, dice, movement, etc on your internet game?
I just finished playing a 2-player game and attempted a FP military victory strategy. It was a near run thing but the SP got their 10VPs first. I goofed and was thinking that if both players got their VPs required to win in the same turn the FP would win, so I didn't protect my city/strongholds as well as I should have; I'll know better next time. I needed a few more dice to finish my seige of Minas Morgul. I did give him a scare a few turns earlier when I walked into an undefended Dol Amroth via the card that gives you a two space move with a companion in the army (which I held till game end) and sieged Angmar (from Carrock) in the same turn. Unfortunately for me I ran out of dice and combat cards and the Witch King and company relieved the siege. I could have reached Minas Morgul earlier but he played the card taking away my 3 Will of the West die that turn leaving me with only 3 dice to his 9 dice.
He definitely didn't expect my military aspirations. Right now I think you need the right cards (both sides) and dice to fall your way to have a decent chance of success with it. It seemed like I always needed just one more die at the end of the turn to get the job done.
It was definitely a fun game for me though deviating from the standard attempt to get the ring to Mt. Doom and I made my SP opponent sweat those last few turns.
John
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Post by Glabro on May 8, 2005 22:36:18 GMT 1
Glabro, how are you guys going to play the cards, dice, movement, etc on your internet game? Well, we just tell what cards we play, and their effects. The same with dice, we just roll ´em and say the result. Movement, we just say that the army in region x moves to region y (if the army in region x was split as a result, specifying who actually moved and who didn´t).
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Post by jackstere on May 24, 2005 14:52:35 GMT 1
Glabro or Chulain:
Have you guys begun your game? How well does Skype seem to be working and how is the game itself going?
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Post by jackstere on Apr 19, 2008 5:31:02 GMT 1
Well it's been quite a while since I last visited these forums and I remember reading this thread with great interest. But alas it seemed to die...does anyone know how this thread debate played out? Did the challenge game between Glabro and chulain ever get played and what is the general opinion now on the Free Peoples Military Blitz as described in this thread two years after my last visit?
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