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Post by Armadi on Jul 11, 2004 17:18:49 GMT 1
There are 2 numbers on each character card. The first is level represented by a sword and the next is leadership represented by a shield.
The witch king has an infinite level and his preview card says he has unlimited movement, I've seen the Saruman card (in a preview shot not on this site) and he has a 0 level, and I know he cannot move.
So here is the question, Gimli has a level of 2- now I know that allows him to absorb 2 damage against the fellowship (and die) and that it allows him to move 2 extra spaces when seperating from the fellowship. But does having a level of 2 also allow Gimli to move 2 spaces on the roll of a character die? Obviously without armies.
My second question is: what does leadership rating do? I always thought it was the number of rerolls that the leader allowed his army in combat. But then I saw the preview character event "Lure of the Ring" for the SP. It's battle effect "They are so Terrible" adds 1 to leader reroll and subtracts 1 from leadership rating. So now I'm confused.
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Post by Francesco on Jul 11, 2004 20:56:22 GMT 1
There are 2 numbers on each character card. The first is level represented by a sword and the next is leadership represented by a shield. Correct. Yes. Or better, you can use 1 Character Die result to move ALL characters not in the Fellowship. In that case, Gimli will move up to 2 regions. We're crafty... 'They are terrible' subtract 1 from your TOTAL Nazgul Leadership, to apply a modifier of +1 to your leader re-rolls... For example: the Witch-king and 4 Nazgul are stacked with a SA Army attacking Helm's Deep. The total Nazgul Leadership is 6 (WK 2 + 1+1+1+1), and re-rolls hit on a 6 (stronghold). Playing 'They are terrible' lowers the total Leadership to 5, but raises the to hit number to a 5+. So, in this way you get 5 rerolls at 5+.
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Post by redsimon on Jul 12, 2004 1:08:40 GMT 1
Does that mean that only the re-rolls hit on 5+, not the first rolls?
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Post by steveowen on Jul 12, 2004 9:42:15 GMT 1
Does that mean that only the re-rolls hit on 5+, not the first rolls?
Yes, exactly that. Combat cards may influence the initial roll, the re-rolls or both so a careful reading of the card is in order! Others affect dice to hit more dramatically so a good way of cracking open strongholds is to use the + 2 to all dice to hit which means 4.5.6 for the attackers and 3,4,5,6 for the defenders. You do need lots of units though to soak up the inevitable defender hits.
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Post by Greyskull on Aug 5, 2004 13:32:39 GMT 1
Hello, :)I'm new here and as all people here I am a big fan of the Lord of the Rings board games, since I've read many years ago the book. Now, I've got only one question, may be it's quite stupid to ask but I'm very curios and i'm lloking forward to buy this great game. In the war of the ring board game there a lot of miniatures, and I'd like to know who are the characters represented by a miniature, that's all!!! ;D ...I was a little bit disappointed to know that Gollum was not present as a miniature... So, let me know... Regards Andrea NB Sorry for my English, I hope I'll improve my way of writing, soon!!!!
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Post by steveowen on Aug 5, 2004 14:36:33 GMT 1
The individual characters represented are Gandalf the Grey, Pippin, Merry, Strider, Boromir, Legolas and Gimli for the fellowship and The Witch King, Saruman and Mouth of Sauron for the shadow. There is also a composite figure for the Ringbearers - Frodo and Sam. Gollum doesn't have a figure but does have a card as have all the other individual characters. Aragorn and Gandalf the White are represented by markers to place under the respective figures and cards of their own. The other 8 Nazgul are generic but each is set on a flying beast.
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Post by steveowen on Aug 5, 2004 14:43:41 GMT 1
As far as the nations go - each of the free nations have four leaders who are generic but may be thought of as individuals eg Theoden starts at the Fords of Isen, Brand is in Dale, Denethor broods in Minas Tirith. Several event cards bring in characters who are again represented by generic leaders (eg Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth) but there is scope for individualisation here - I am sure you get the idea.
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Post by Greyskull on Aug 5, 2004 15:31:15 GMT 1
Yes, I've got the idea thank you Steve!! But in the game there is also place for Tom Bombadil, Radagast the Brown, Galadriel, Elrond, Glorfindel, the King of the Dead ...and what about Bilbo...yes, I know I'm pretending too much, but anyway I think I'm gonna love this board game!!! Let me knowwwwwww Andrea
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Post by steveowen on Aug 5, 2004 15:47:46 GMT 1
But in the game there is also place for Tom Bombadil, Radagast the Brown, Galadriel, Elrond, Glorfindel, the King of the Dead ...and what about Bilbo
Tom has his own event card as has Glorfindel and Celeborn. Galadriel appears as a card and her phial is a beneficial hunt tile which may be drawn in Mordor. Bilbo's Song reduces corruption and Elrond is the generic leader in Rivendell - but no King of the Dead that I can recall!
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Post by steveowen on Aug 5, 2004 17:50:44 GMT 1
but no King of the Dead that I can recall!
There is, however, the "Dead Men of Dunharrow" event card that allows Strider to move from Rohan to Gondor and wipe out a die roll worth of enemy units in a specified Gondor region and replace these with three Gondor units - the King of the Dead must be in there somewhere!
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Post by stevehope on Aug 5, 2004 21:04:18 GMT 1
Seems like several of the cards are EXTREMELY powerful in terms of their impact on the game...that one, the Witch King Returns, and Mustering for Long-Planned War (or whatever it's called) all dwarf the impact of a muster die.
I guess this reflects two things: first, you have to use TWO dice to draw then play the card as well as making the board situation suit the card; second, it's fun to have the card effects be so powerful relative to other things you can do with dice results--kind of gives you intermediate strategic objectives.
Steve or others, is that perception of the cards being so strong generally right? I know Francesco or one of the other designers (Roberto?) somewhere described his hand of cards as being like the script of a play...I.E. that you want your play to take the path that allows for the play of your hand and maximizes its effect.
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Post by Veldrin on Aug 5, 2004 22:01:08 GMT 1
Yes, the cards you hold very much dictates your plans.
Naturally you can't rely 100% on the cards since it will be obvious to your opponent what your intentions are. You must move troops in more than just one theatre of war in order to mislead your opponent and then play that important card at a time when your opponent hopefully can't counter it. But you never know, the opponent's cards might just be as good as yours...
So follow your cards where they lead you but move in other areas as well since you just might get a card that suits your position there.
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Post by steveowen on Aug 5, 2004 22:41:00 GMT 1
The cards like Musterings of Long Planned War are probably less powerful than they first appear. This one, for instance, gives you 5 S&E's in Gorgoroth and 5 Sauron orcs in Nurn. This force may look impressive but is well away from the action in the depths of Mordor. The Witch King returns gives you troops in the far North but these then have to travel south and do rather telegraph your intentions as well as tieing up your most powerful piece. As Kristofer says multiple threats serve you best.
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Post by stevehope on Aug 5, 2004 23:58:09 GMT 1
Thanks guys for your thoughts! It's fun to read comments by people who've actually played the game.
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Post by Greyskull on Aug 6, 2004 10:43:52 GMT 1
This board game sounds great!!! By the way, I am a little bit disappointed that there will be no miniatures of Gollum, Tom Bombadil, Glorfindel, Galadriel, Radagast the Brown, Faramir, the Balrog, Wormtongue or Ents but only card events about them!!! It would have been fantastic to have all those miniatures...may be in the future in a new expansion set... By the way, now a question about the release date. I live in Belgium, and the game was supposed to be released during the end of july and the beginning of august...but at the moment, I ain't seen nothing!!! Why??? See you guys!!! ;D
Andrea
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