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Post by ivan1 on Jan 18, 2008 18:45:29 GMT 1
I am wondering if I am the only one on this forum still playing the base game, even while having the expansion on my shelf.
For me most of the expansion rules are a bit over the top. Lacking the genial simplicity of the base game.
Of course I realize that the base game is a bit unbalanced, especially because the Free have not enough resources. So I am using a house rule based on Galadriel from the expansion.
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Post by Krieghund on Jan 18, 2008 19:27:10 GMT 1
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Post by ivan1 on Jan 19, 2008 8:50:52 GMT 1
Krieghund, I like the selection you made from the expansion. But what to do if you don't have the expansion. I know that Mr Weasely designed some variants, like the Wizardy variant. What I want to discuss here is how people feel about the extra expansion rules. For me they are too busy and I am not a player's wife
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Post by genghissean on Jan 19, 2008 11:56:33 GMT 1
I do not find the rules too busy. When teaching someone new I usually introduce the expansion rules and pieces after 1 base game play. Then, I ask they read the 30 min booklet rules, and everything goes as smooth as butter. I have taught at least 10 guys, no problem. I think the expansion only expands the themes and options of the main game. I like playing the FP in the base game if I am playing a newbie, it gives him some sort of chance of getting close to winning (it hasnt happened yet, but in the base game Mordor is always exciting, pulling 1 eye with 5 dice in the box suddenly changes everything).
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Post by Michael Withstand on Sept 7, 2009 3:41:19 GMT 1
I've decided no to pick up the expansion. At least for now I just got the base game about a week ago.
It's already hard enough to tech newbies about the base game rule. And I don't think the expansion worth $55(US) anyway might as well get another wholly new game.
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Post by genghissean on Sept 8, 2009 19:38:18 GMT 1
I picked up my copy for $29 on ebay. And, the expansion IS a whole new game. The scenarios, which are faster and easier (Rohan anyways) than War of the Ring. You can teach someone to play the Rohan scenario (ie.Battle for Helm's deep) without even looking at WOTR. It simply uses some of the figures from the main game. oh, and I still love the base game. Especially being a warmongal as the FP, winning militarily is a rush! (see Mr.Wesley on tatics)
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Post by Michael Withstand on Sept 11, 2009 3:17:32 GMT 1
I picked up my copy for $29 on ebay. And, the expansion IS a whole new game. The scenarios, which are faster and easier (Rohan anyways) than War of the Ring. You can teach someone to play the Rohan scenario (ie.Battle for Helm's deep) without even looking at WOTR. It simply uses some of the figures from the main game. oh, and I still love the base game. Especially being a warmongal as the FP, winning militarily is a rush! (see Mr.Wesley on tatics) For 29 buck I might get it but not for 55 which is how much the expansion is tagged here. I'm aware that the expansion introduces some fiddly rules to the base game as well. This is what deterred me in addition to the 55 bucks price tag. I'm eying twilight struggle deluxe I kind of bought WotR to fill the gap meanwhile. But I bought WotR since I heard many people enjoy this game and after trying it the game captures the LoTR theme very well. Not too much thinking and it's pretty light once the rules are all figured out. In one word it's LotR on table.
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Post by genghissean on Sept 11, 2009 18:37:36 GMT 1
Well put. I have never played any board game which catches the theme so well. There are new rules in the xpac for the base game, which allows you to play EITHER version or a combo of both. I prefer the xpac when I play a seasoned vet as it evens it out a bit and gives more options (especially with Gandalf).
But if a train someone new, now, I will play Rohan scenario as its fast, easy, a lot of fun, and a lot of military fighting on both sides.
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